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У Перуна вышло очередное любопытное видео. Там много интересного, но мне особенно понравился этот график (с двадцатой минуты видео) -- люди сравнили спутниковые фотографии хранилищ танков в РФ в 2021 и наиболее свежие из имеющихся, и до кучи классифицровали оставшиеся там ОБТ по их состоянию.



Осинтеры в наше время сила, конечно, ничего не скажешь.
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Date: 2024-07-18 02:01 pm (UTC)
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Date: 2024-07-18 02:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] smoliarm.livejournal.com

Нучо, на две деревеньки в Харьковской области хватит.


Может, на три...

Date: 2024-07-18 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] j-barbarossa.livejournal.com

Да совсем танков не осталось. Чего ж тарасики до Урала не дошли?

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Date: 2024-07-18 02:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamswimer.livejournal.com

Т.е. еще есть задел в почти 2500 тысячи корпусов которые так или иначе можно будет отправить на фронт.
Плюс что-то построят с нуля.

Это много.

Date: 2024-07-18 02:19 pm (UTC)
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А вы заметили восстановленные из корпуса танки? Так делают в некоторых странах, эти страны иного рода.

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Date: 2024-07-18 02:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fat-yankey.livejournal.com
> Осинтеры в наше время сила, конечно, ничего не скажешь.

Этим конкретным осинтерам силу даёт космос. То, что в наши дни уже каждый квадратный сантиметр семного шара отсняли, и всегда можно заплатить малую толику денег и попросить переснять.

Date: 2024-07-18 02:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jr0.livejournal.com

Да. Но не сантиметр. Каждые два метра — один пиксел ни о чем. Зато можно ежедневно РЛ изображение купить, чем на Украине и пользуются. Надеюсь, что санкции РФ тут работают вполне.


Тут напомню, что мифологизированной спутниковой системы Легенда давно нет, зато новые коммерческие сети разных стран той мифической лучше. И все равно нет многих возможностей, что приписывали тайной Легенде.

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На жаль, ще багато залишилось

Date: 2024-07-19 04:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fondr lion (from livejournal.com)

Так . И бронированные версии камазов с уралами на перспективу ..

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Date: 2024-07-18 02:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jr0.livejournal.com

Занятно, что восстанавливать Т-80В и У не торопятся. И понятно, почему Т-62, а не Т-55, как обычно. Т-55 кончились. Полагаю, складывать стоит число Т-72 и Т-62.

Edited Date: 2024-07-18 02:32 pm (UTC)

Date: 2024-07-18 02:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vakhnenko.livejournal.com
> Занятно, что восстанавливать Т-80В и У не торопятся

По графику — У и УД выгребли ~75%, Б и БВ ~80%. Весьма немалые цифры, я бы не сказал, что они говорят о том, что не торопятся.

Насколько я понимаю, кроме того что сами эти танки относительно новые (ну, относительно Т-62), большой их плюс в нынешних тактических условиях ещё и в наличии ГТД, т.е. в мобильности, которую тот даёт — особенно если надо резко сдать назад.

> И понятно, почему Т-62, а не Т-55, как обычно. Т-55 кончились.

В хранилищах они пока есть, но вообще:
1) Т-62 всё таки новее, и стало быть несколько эффективнее.
2) Я подозреваю, что под орудие Т-62 легче раздобыть боеприпасы, чем для Т-55, в частности от КНДР и может быть от Китая.
Edited Date: 2024-07-18 02:54 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2024-07-18 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] livejournal.livejournal.com
Здравствуйте!
Ваша запись попала в топ-25 популярных записей LiveJournal (https://www.livejournal.com/ratings/). Подробнее о рейтинге читайте в Справке (https://www.dreamwidth.org/support/faqbrowse?faqid=303).

Date: 2024-07-18 04:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oldzettelkasten.livejournal.com
Осинтеры в наше время сила, конечно, ничего не скажешь.

Да, хотелось бы и мне когда-нибудь стать осинтером.

Date: 2024-07-18 04:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apleks.livejournal.com

В СССР оператор снял с вышки одно из хранилищ резерва. Круговая панорама, от горизонта до горизонта, броня к броне танки... десятки тысяч танков. С корпусом ничего не будет, ходовой в общем то то же, сама пушка то же. Под кап ремонт двигатель и замена всей электроники. У нарезной мощность и точность выстрела выше трубы, как САУ один хрен пойдёт.

Edited Date: 2024-07-18 04:25 pm (UTC)

Date: 2024-07-18 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] olaff67.livejournal.com
В программе «Служу Советскому Союзу» было, да?

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Date: 2024-07-18 04:27 pm (UTC)
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Как же так?
Ведь потерь же нет?

Date: 2024-07-18 04:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] powerforpeople.livejournal.com
#ZаржаVели.

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Date: 2024-07-18 04:40 pm (UTC)
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Как же хорошо хохляцкий дроч наблюдать.

Date: 2024-07-18 05:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] breyers1.livejournal.com

Ты хоть надежно зеркало поставил? А то ведь с твоей рукожопостью еще и порежешься.

Edited Date: 2024-07-18 05:39 pm (UTC)

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Date: 2024-07-18 04:48 pm (UTC)
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Танков осталось на 2-3 дня..

Date: 2024-07-18 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] psylocybinus.livejournal.com

то-то Абрамсы уже дошли до Мск! я лично один видел на Поклонной

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Date: 2024-07-18 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chilim-ka.livejournal.com
Что, все? Писда наступила, у России танки закончились?
Сахар! Сахар! Сахар!
Слаще стало во рту, хохлы?)))

Date: 2024-07-18 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] breyers1.livejournal.com

Кстати, ванька, а чей Херсон?

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Date: 2024-07-18 04:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nielsen73.livejournal.com
Этот пост из когнитивных войн или просто блогерская блевотина?

Date: 2024-07-18 05:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vakhnenko.livejournal.com
Пост в топе — беда в доме

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Date: 2024-07-18 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bordyrikamen.livejournal.com

А смысл в танках когда командование онлайн имеет картинку с дронов? ФАБ 500-1500 с УМПК выносят любое укрепление с ювелирной точностью. Да у России нет старлинка, пока... так научились тянуть проводной интернет на передовой, голь на выдумку хитра.

Edited Date: 2024-07-18 05:12 pm (UTC)

Date: 2024-07-18 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antonkachinskiy.livejournal.com

Удивительно что Т-62 на первом месте по числу. Не ожидал...

Date: 2024-07-18 09:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trittonjuice.livejournal.com
Удивительно, что кто-то вообще обсуждает эту картинку не имеющую никаких оснований.

Date: 2024-07-18 10:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anonymus.livejournal.com
Нельзя завидовать столь яростно, это вредно для здоровья. Не переживайте, вас скоро пустят на работы в Китай.

Date: 2024-07-18 05:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zertotl.livejournal.com

свежую технику пожгли в первые дни неудачного блицкрига.


мтлбв и танки, которые помнят горбачева, уже не катят.



Date: 2024-07-18 05:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomly-bk.livejournal.com

Т-55 был самый массовый танк после ВМВ. Это просто Эверест был танковый. Гора до неба. На хранении лежат корпуса без кабелей из цветмета, оптики, радиоэлектроники. Вся эта масса требует таких усилий по восстановлению, что первая мысль — а не проще ли начать строить новое? Но т.к. святой Тувинец стибрил 11 трюликов из 20 трлн., то остается гнать старье.
СВО вскрыла гнойную плешь кремлевских дружбанов. Нового крайне мало. Танки новые — штучный товар. Когда путч Пригожина останавливали мусоровозами, прекрасно понимаешь, что эшелонов тупо нет. Нечем останавливать. Прорвал оборону и открытый простор до Кремля.

Date: 2024-07-18 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] laozi1961.livejournal.com
Я правильно понимаю, что ремонтопригодность танков и состояние "дрова" определили по спутниковым снимкам? Снимаю шляпу господа. Думаю остальная информация примерно такой же достоверности.

Date: 2024-07-18 06:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torque-28n.livejournal.com
А что им ещё остаётся?
Год назад орали "скоро будем пить каву в Ялте!"
Сейчас ноют "ВС РФ недостаточно быстро наступают..."
Что будуть скулить через год?

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Date: 2024-07-18 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] andre-vikont.livejournal.com

Ракет осталось на 2 месяца — говорили они летом 2022 года.

Date: 2024-07-19 08:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] insert-bolster.livejournal.com

Ну если на 2 суреномесяца.... 🤔

Date: 2024-07-18 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] colobus11.livejournal.com
Потери с 10 по 17 июля 2024

ВС РФ

4 830 убитыми, пропавшими без вести, пленными, дезертировавшими.
14 450 ранеными, выбывшими по болезни.

ВСУ

1 620 убитыми, пропавшими без вести, пленными, дезертировавшими.
4 600 ранеными, выбывшими по болезни.

Потери с 24.02.2022 по 17.07.2024

ВС РФ

325 680 убитыми, пропавшими без вести, пленными, дезертировавшими.
746 663 ранеными, выбывшими по болезни.

ВСУ

129 510 убитыми, пропавшими без вести, пленными, дезертировавшими.
335 563 ранеными, выбывшими по болезни.

Date: 2024-07-18 08:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] prischelech.livejournal.com

Пиздец ты тупой. Украинские кладбища уже из космоса видно невооружённым взглядом.

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Date: 2024-07-18 07:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alexanderlg.livejournal.com
Осинтеры — обыкновенные дураки.
КАК из космоса можно определить хорошее или плохое состояние танков? Многие поломки и с трех метров не определить. И наоборот. Невзрачный внешний вид, не означает , что танк негоден.
СНЯТЫЕ с хранения танки , абсолютно не синоним УНИЧТОЖЕННЫЕ. Они поступают на формирование новых военных округов, корпусов, дивизий и усиление имеющихся. На модернизацию , заводские склады и т.д.
Вот по данным обьективного контроля на поле боя, можно считать потери. И то , примерно. Есть безвозвратные потери, а есть ремонтопригодные.
Edited Date: 2024-07-18 09:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2024-07-18 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rubir-ru.livejournal.com

цэ перемога или зрада? :). Видимо зрада, потому что начинали с 'ракет осталось на два удара', а теперь оказывается тысячи танков сняты с хранения и отправлены на складирование в точках их модернизации :).

Date: 2024-07-18 08:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wacek-pizdetcki.livejournal.com

Ложь, 3,14здёжь и провокация...

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